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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-2#comment-51347</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to hyphen domain names. Im not sure how old this article is but im sure goole would recognize the seo and gold from your domain without the hyphen, right?

I have a client who has both the hyphen and un hyphened versions of his domain.
Can decide what is the best method? any ideas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to hyphen domain names. Im not sure how old this article is but im sure goole would recognize the seo and gold from your domain without the hyphen, right?</p>
<p>I have a client who has both the hyphen and un hyphened versions of his domain.<br />
Can decide what is the best method? any ideas</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cu</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-2#comment-32441</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Cu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 08:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Viet Nam, we prefer un-hyphenated domains, people rush for those domains while hyphenated domains are still available and easily to grab.

I just purchased one hyphenated domain at USD2.7 while same domain un-hyphenated which has been registered and now is for sales at USD1000. I can not understand how people evaluate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Viet Nam, we prefer un-hyphenated domains, people rush for those domains while hyphenated domains are still available and easily to grab.</p>
<p>I just purchased one hyphenated domain at USD2.7 while same domain un-hyphenated which has been registered and now is for sales at USD1000. I can not understand how people evaluate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-32374</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  Could you please just let us know if hyphenated domain names are still good for SEO?  I gather by now that Google can distinguish words mashed together without hyphens--but is it still true that hyphens with the same words are just as good for seo purposes?  Please answer...article doesn&#039;t have a date and I&#039;d really very much like to know.

Thanks so very much for an awesome site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  Could you please just let us know if hyphenated domain names are still good for SEO?  I gather by now that Google can distinguish words mashed together without hyphens&#8211;but is it still true that hyphens with the same words are just as good for seo purposes?  Please answer&#8230;article doesn&#8217;t have a date and I&#8217;d really very much like to know.</p>
<p>Thanks so very much for an awesome site!</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-32221</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an SEO perspective for a specific SERP and related SERPs hyphenated domains are the best, but they only cover a subset of SERPs a site might be targeting.

For example my site seo-gold.com covers SERPs including the keyword SEO, but it doesn&#039;t help with any of these keywords which pages on this site target:

keywords domains search engine optimisation optimization PageRank PR tutorial and so on, this domain name helps with one SERP and that&#039;s SEO (and Gold, though that&#039;s branding).

If the domain was seogold.com it would be optimized for ZERO SERPs. As a side note that domain was registered at least 8 years ago and is redirecting to another domain currently parked on Godaddy. A Google search for seogold doesn&#039;t find either of the domains, as it happens this site is number 1. If someone offered me seogold.com for free I probably wouldn&#039;t want it, might check if there&#039;s any backlinks to it and see if they have any value, but the domain name in it self is worthless.

There is no value buying domains only to 301 redirect them to another domain unless you add links to the domains. If I registered seo-gold-tutorial-optimization.com and 301 redirected it to this site how would a search engine know it exists without links to seo-gold-tutorial-optimization.com ???

Unless you plan to link to domains you are 301 redirecting there&#039;s nothing SEO wise to gain from owning them, they won&#039;t pass any SEO benefit. Although there&#039;s a theoretical value in linking to domains you are 301 redirecting it&#039;s costly, you have to add links for starters and a 301 redirect costs link benefit. I assume the cost of a 301 redirect is the equivalent of linking to an intermediate page with a single link that links to another page with the same anchor text of the first link. this will likely cost around 15% of the PR the original link could pass, that&#039;s costly. Makes more sense to create pages targeting the SERPs within the domain name and link to those pages.

There&#039;s no real SEO difference between seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/ and seo-gold-seo-tutorial.com/

I&#039;ve only once purchased domains to stop others registering them and that was for branding purposes. I develop WordPress SEO themes called Talian 5 and Stallion 6 and have registered multiple relevant domains. I wouldn&#039;t register non-hyphenated to stop others registering them, waste of money, they have no SEO value. I generally wouldn&#039;t register hyphenated domains I don&#039;t plan to use, it&#039;s not hard to find a derivative of a SERP or another tld that works.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an SEO perspective for a specific SERP and related SERPs hyphenated domains are the best, but they only cover a subset of SERPs a site might be targeting.</p>
<p>For example my site seo-gold.com covers SERPs including the keyword SEO, but it doesn&#8217;t help with any of these keywords which pages on this site target:</p>
<p>keywords domains search engine optimisation optimization PageRank PR tutorial and so on, this domain name helps with one SERP and that&#8217;s SEO (and Gold, though that&#8217;s branding).</p>
<p>If the domain was seogold.com it would be optimized for ZERO SERPs. As a side note that domain was registered at least 8 years ago and is redirecting to another domain currently parked on Godaddy. A Google search for seogold doesn&#8217;t find either of the domains, as it happens this site is number 1. If someone offered me seogold.com for free I probably wouldn&#8217;t want it, might check if there&#8217;s any backlinks to it and see if they have any value, but the domain name in it self is worthless.</p>
<p>There is no value buying domains only to 301 redirect them to another domain unless you add links to the domains. If I registered seo-gold-tutorial-optimization.com and 301 redirected it to this site how would a search engine know it exists without links to seo-gold-tutorial-optimization.com ???</p>
<p>Unless you plan to link to domains you are 301 redirecting there&#8217;s nothing SEO wise to gain from owning them, they won&#8217;t pass any SEO benefit. Although there&#8217;s a theoretical value in linking to domains you are 301 redirecting it&#8217;s costly, you have to add links for starters and a 301 redirect costs link benefit. I assume the cost of a 301 redirect is the equivalent of linking to an intermediate page with a single link that links to another page with the same anchor text of the first link. this will likely cost around 15% of the PR the original link could pass, that&#8217;s costly. Makes more sense to create pages targeting the SERPs within the domain name and link to those pages.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no real SEO difference between seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/ and seo-gold-seo-tutorial.com/</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only once purchased domains to stop others registering them and that was for branding purposes. I develop WordPress SEO themes called Talian 5 and Stallion 6 and have registered multiple relevant domains. I wouldn&#8217;t register non-hyphenated to stop others registering them, waste of money, they have no SEO value. I generally wouldn&#8217;t register hyphenated domains I don&#8217;t plan to use, it&#8217;s not hard to find a derivative of a SERP or another tld that works.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-32208</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  We have already spent some money on branding our website domain name (e.g., web name prominent on vans, shirts, brochures, etc).  Domain name is not currently ideal for SEO purposes.  Other (better) website names are available for purchase.  Meaning they have good keywords in them, with hyphens.  I am not very technically savvy, but if we point those domains to our current website (I suppose through what you are calling a 301 re-direct), will that be just as good for SEO purposes?  Would GREATLY appreciate your advice!!

Thanks so much for an awesome article!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  We have already spent some money on branding our website domain name (e.g., web name prominent on vans, shirts, brochures, etc).  Domain name is not currently ideal for SEO purposes.  Other (better) website names are available for purchase.  Meaning they have good keywords in them, with hyphens.  I am not very technically savvy, but if we point those domains to our current website (I suppose through what you are calling a 301 re-direct), will that be just as good for SEO purposes?  Would GREATLY appreciate your advice!!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for an awesome article!!</p>
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		<title>By: jaxanne</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-31597</link>
		<dc:creator>jaxanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site full of real useful information and comments and after reading about optimizing a domain name here I have just purchased my 3 work domain name, with hyphens .  I bought .com and .co.uk and know the un-hyphenated options for both .com and .co.uk are available - as it is a highly competitive industry I work in, I now wonder if I should buy those up too - so that only I have my three top chosen keywords in my domain name whether hyphened or not?

Thanks in advance.

Jaxanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site full of real useful information and comments and after reading about optimizing a domain name here I have just purchased my 3 work domain name, with hyphens .  I bought .com and .co.uk and know the un-hyphenated options for both .com and .co.uk are available &#8211; as it is a highly competitive industry I work in, I now wonder if I should buy those up too &#8211; so that only I have my three top chosen keywords in my domain name whether hyphened or not?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Jaxanne</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-29423</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 01:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first example with a hyphen has SEO value for the SERP whilst the other two has no SEO value. Might as well have the domain name hjghjjhgfjh.tld

Do you really believe Google would as a matter of course downgrade hyphenated domains because for a period of time they were used for SEO reasons? Now the SEO myth hyphenated domains are penalised in Google has become a well known &quot;SEO Fact&quot; there&#039;s isn&#039;t even a slight reason to downgrade them (not that they would, not how Google works).

Just a bunch of webmasters, my site was downgraded, it was a hyphenated domain therefore hyphenated domains are penalised.

Same argument with tld&#039;s, ignoring country specific benefits there&#039;s no difference. So org is no better or worse than com or info.

Check the SEO Tutorial SERP in Google, 4 of the top 10 use hyphenated domains with the keyword SEO within them. For the SEO SERP it&#039;s 3.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first example with a hyphen has SEO value for the SERP whilst the other two has no SEO value. Might as well have the domain name hjghjjhgfjh.tld</p>
<p>Do you really believe Google would as a matter of course downgrade hyphenated domains because for a period of time they were used for SEO reasons? Now the SEO myth hyphenated domains are penalised in Google has become a well known &#8220;SEO Fact&#8221; there&#8217;s isn&#8217;t even a slight reason to downgrade them (not that they would, not how Google works).</p>
<p>Just a bunch of webmasters, my site was downgraded, it was a hyphenated domain therefore hyphenated domains are penalised.</p>
<p>Same argument with tld&#8217;s, ignoring country specific benefits there&#8217;s no difference. So org is no better or worse than com or info.</p>
<p>Check the SEO Tutorial SERP in Google, 4 of the top 10 use hyphenated domains with the keyword SEO within them. For the SEO SERP it&#8217;s 3.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave,
Good article.  It goes against common theory that hyphens rank worse.

Regarding TLDs, I&#039;ve seen a .org rocket up the results in very competitive space, so it made me wonder.  

Here is my question:

Let&#039;s say I&#039;m starting a site to sell buffalo chips.  
I&#039;ve done my homework and realized &quot;buffalo chips&quot; is by far the most desirable search phrase.  
I&#039;ve given up on finding something brandable; and prefer something with SEO juice.

What do you think of the relative value of these three choices?

buffalo-chips(dot)net
buffalochips(dot)org
chipsbuffalo(dot)com

Looking forward to your thoughts.
tj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave,<br />
Good article.  It goes against common theory that hyphens rank worse.</p>
<p>Regarding TLDs, I&#8217;ve seen a .org rocket up the results in very competitive space, so it made me wonder.  </p>
<p>Here is my question:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say I&#8217;m starting a site to sell buffalo chips.<br />
I&#8217;ve done my homework and realized &#8220;buffalo chips&#8221; is by far the most desirable search phrase.<br />
I&#8217;ve given up on finding something brandable; and prefer something with SEO juice.</p>
<p>What do you think of the relative value of these three choices?</p>
<p>buffalo-chips(dot)net<br />
buffalochips(dot)org<br />
chipsbuffalo(dot)com</p>
<p>Looking forward to your thoughts.<br />
tj</p>
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		<title>By: varun kumar mishra</title>
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		<dc:creator>varun kumar mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi sir plese inform me .i want start seo buisness
so how to start this buisness.plese sir send my information step-2 step on my e:mail.thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi sir plese inform me .i want start seo buisness<br />
so how to start this buisness.plese sir send my information step-2 step on my e:mail.thanx</p>
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		<title>By: TR fr Sydney Limousines</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-gold.com/seo-tutorial/domain-name-choice/comment-page-1#comment-25992</link>
		<dc:creator>TR fr Sydney Limousines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My domain name is very keyword rich but I don&#039;t have hyphens in it. The url is limousinesin.sydneyareacode.com.au

and Google recognises it in the SERPs as limousines in Sydney area code.

I do use hyphens though, especially when there are 2 s&#039;s for eg.

I tend to buy keyword rich domain names but they aren&#039;t always the name of the biz. Do you recommend buying biz domain name
eg. mycompanyname.com.au

and redirect to keyword rich url with a 301 redirect? This wouldn&#039;t affect ranking would it?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My domain name is very keyword rich but I don&#8217;t have hyphens in it. The url is limousinesin.sydneyareacode.com.au</p>
<p>and Google recognises it in the SERPs as limousines in Sydney area code.</p>
<p>I do use hyphens though, especially when there are 2 s&#8217;s for eg.</p>
<p>I tend to buy keyword rich domain names but they aren&#8217;t always the name of the biz. Do you recommend buying biz domain name<br />
eg. mycompanyname.com.au</p>
<p>and redirect to keyword rich url with a 301 redirect? This wouldn&#8217;t affect ranking would it?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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